Mohammed discouraged the Culture of Questioning – A Muslim-Atheist Dialogue


SURA-20:114
{ فَتَعَٰلَى ٱللَّهُ ٱلْمَلِكُ ٱلْحَقُّ وَلاَ تَعْجَلْ بِٱلْقُرْءانِ مِن قَبْلِ أَن يُقْضَىٰ إِلَيْكَ وَحْيُهُ وَقُل رَّبِّ زِدْنِي عِلْماً }


“So exalted be God, the King, the Truth, above what the idolaters say. And do not hasten with the Qur’ān, that is, to recite it, before its revelation is completed for you, [before] Gabriel is through delivering it, and say, ‘My Lord, increase me in knowledge’, that is, [knowledge] of the Qur’ān: thus every time something of it was revealed to him his knowledge increased because of it.”


The above surah clearly asks muslims to study quran only.


Myth: muhammad asked his followers to get the best education.


Fact: as we can conclude from the above Sura-20:114 Muhammad asked his followes to study quran only for education. In his mind quran was the ultimate source of knowledge. The fact is Quran contains Muhammad’s experiences, his false claims, his violent messages, his misleading information, his curses, and the stories he copied from other religious books. There is not a shred of truth or divinity in quran, or in any other religious book, period.

Message to all muslim brothers and sisters:


Aristotle’s advice: use reason and logic in every action and decision in your life.
muhammad’s advice in sura 5 : 101-102


do not ask questions. previous nations who asked questions became disbelievers. Which also means just follow me blindly. who would you follow?


in the book “101 myths of bible”, greenberg explained that the stories in the Jewish bible had their origins in Egyptian mythology. Christians & Muslims later plagiarized the very same mythical stories from Jewish bible into their so called holy books.


THINK CRITICALLY.
zulfiqar tareen, a friend of all, enemy of none

[Me]

What is Aristotle’s response to questions like e.g.

“Dear Aristotle.. did the chicken come first or the egg?

In theology the trust and belief in the GOD is the must. and having faith in GOD, one must trust that the God’s if creator of the universe, must have his own Will on many things. He is not slave to mankind but mankind is.

that why Prophet forbade questioning about things which are exclusively God’s Will and the answers of which will stop the mankind from doing hardwork and hardships. e.g.

1. When will i Die ?
2. When will the day of judgement happen ?
3. What is God made up of ?
4. When will the next rain fall ??
5. what will be the result of the dice i throw ??
….

An athiest came to Zulfiqar sahab and he asked

“Zulfiqar sahab you advocate science and reasoning, please tell me the name of the person who will be the winner of the next world cup??” [so that i may start satta right now]

then zulfiqar sahab being a bisy person and responsible person.. said polietly

“do not ask such questions which you know won’t be answered for a purpose of the benefit of mankind as a whole”!!! instead ask me how to be the winner ! in a justified and merit-compliant approach.”

[Atheist]

Ammar, Very ordinary explanation of why one should trust in God. The very notion of God is a child of human limitations. There are lots of things around us which an intelligent mind can question and should question. The idea of an omnipotent God is not a modern invention. The ancient man had unfathomable questions in their mind but they had no answers. They had to rest their inabilities to someone. Time has changed, science and technology has answered many questions and in future this will continue. Why should I stop questioning, reasoning and doubting? No one knows the ultimate starting point…and this is the spring board of questioning which pushes us to know more. Submission to the unknown is not the answer, search for answer is the key!

[Me]

You could not provide ordinary answer to the ordinary explanation.. i believe in logics more then blabbering. 

it is clear that The people are twisting the words of prophet mohammed and totally distorting the context in which those words were said.. this is very unethical. 

there are many discussion where i have talked much about the God. please have a look here ..
https://bittertruthpk.wordpress.com/2012/12/08/god-or-no-god-a-dialogue-with-an-indian-american-atheist/

There are many religions in the world, mostly from the divine source but later people instead of protecting it, altered it, and thus went astrayed. The main message was same “GOD IS ONE” !.. Islam perfects the message by safeguarding it from the the alterations. 

Why the God did not protected his words in the first place ?

By the virtue of the creation of Good and Bad situations, Tyrant and Weak positions, Natural Disasters and Man Made wars, Disparity of Weak and the poor, Aggression of the imperialists upon the weak nations, life and death, kingdom and dynasities, roles positions and ranks……….

God sees how his bondsmen behave in different situations.. it is part of the God’s master Plan.. each one of us is in given a unique life and a unique position in this world.. so that we may all go through some points in life where our inner purity and impurities are put to test !. 

e.g. when you plan to spend your leisure time in Florida, there come some needy person to you who ask you for help, but instead of helping him out, you chose to proceed to your leisure trip.. !! GOD CREATED THE SITUATION FOR YOU.. AND CLEARLY ASKED YOU TO HELP THE POOR FIRST THEN TO ENJOY YOUR LUXORY… 

now you are left with a choice.. its up to you what you do.

YOU CAN CARRY ON SCIENTIFIC DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTIGATION BY HAVING A FAITH IN GOD … God does’t stop you from your persuit of knowledge.. All he wants to have a Faith that “GOD IS ONE!!

secondly. 

You guys are striving to create awareness that there is NO GOD !
I am trying to create awareness that THERE IS GOD !

what happens if we both die and there is no hereafter ??… we both die. and business is finished.. 

But what if come to know that God did Exisit and his promise of Judgement was right..

then i will be safe and you won’t be. 

A INTELLIGENT IS A PERSON WHO MINIMIZES THE RISK TO BELOW 5% RATHER THEN TAKING AS MUCH AS 50% RISK FOR HIS ETERNAL LIFE!!

I AM INTELLIGENT BECAUSE I CHOOSE TO GET 100% PEACE IN EITHER THE CASE!

[Atheist]

If the Muslims really knew the context of Muhammad’s views and rationale, no sensible person would ever raised questions about Muhammad. The true context is he was a tribal leader who sincerely tried to discipline his pagan people. He was right at that time to pretend that Gabriel visited him to bring God’s messages, he visited the 7th heavens to meet God and talked to the long dead prophets and other fables. The time was right for him to make people believe these fables. But the blunder is made by dragging these fable to this day. In the realm of intellectual business fables are not an acceptable commodity. Angels does not exist, God’s existence is unsubstantiated therefore his messages through an angel does not make sense. Blind faith is not for people who can see. Please do not quote verses from Koran, use your own judgement.

[Me]

you words sound more then your opinion rather then answers of my previously raised questions. 

I am Computer Systems Engineer (Understand science, mathematics, electronics…..) and MBA in Marketing (Understand Economics, Finance, Taxation, Consumer Behavior, Law, Statistics, Strategic management), responsible for Project Management at my office and going to be a Ph.D Student in ( VSLI or Embedded Systems) very soon InshahAllah.

but yes… I am proud Mohammadian.. that means

your points are not right and you are exposed to lies regarding Islam and is that you are again forgetting that 
FAITH and SCIENCE can go along with together.. you can keep Faith in GOD and his wisdom and continue on your journey of understanding more and more… with every discovery you make….. every new star you discover,, every new galaxy you discover.. every new universe you discover or reach.. the question will always haunt you “Who created this?”.. you will always be surrounded by theories .. with every 200 year new theories voiding previous ones.. 

FAITH / RELIGION IS THE ANSWER TODAY THAT SCIENCE WILL REACH TOMORROW. 

e.g.

After decades of research and debate on Big Bang, scientists have claimed to formulate another theory known as “Strings Theory”. They says Even the Big Bangs happens quite often.. they explained that basically the universe is well understood by a 11th dimensional framework !.. and they say there are trillions time more smaller then electrons, calls strings which vibrate in the 11th dimensional model. now they are claiming that the there is not one universe but many parallel universes overlapping each other….. seems like prob solved ??… world from ever and will live ever??

who will ask them… where are the boundaries of these universes ? whats is beyond it ? if this universe is proved to start from a big band.. what cause those multiverse to start ??

………. they will keep bisy you in research to ensure funding from U.S. Government ! and to ensure salary slips of NASA Scientists…

but a question will always haunt you…… “Who created the multiverse??////

[Atheist]

but a question will always haunt you…… “Who created the multiverse? That does not prove a God’s existence. Unless you come out of the vicious circle of blind faith, no logic or reason will give you company. A fear will always haunt you that if I go beyond this I am not a Muslim. I am not in favor of a limit to stop my searches. Blind faith is a totalitarian ideology which is obstructive, dangerous and destructive.

[Me]

God existence is not proved ! its gets understood !

you ask “Show me where is mother’s love”.. while Mother is keep hugging and kissing you.

You see a trillion signs of GOD around you yet you ask show me God !

A Character living artificially inside a 3D Game/Movie can never understand that the world around him is not real but infact a computer program running on intel pentium chipset !! 

e.g. the God Program is like

void main_universe()

while(!Bigbang);
start_the_world();
give_world_life();
for (x=1;x<1000;x++)

create humans();
end for;
…..
while(!DayofJudgement);
Return(0);
}

Science is more Obstructive, Dangerous and Destructive ???

1. Nuclear Arsenal
2. The HAARP Project
3. Weapons of Mass Destruction
4. Hydrogen Bombs
5. DNA Alteration
6. Development of Lethal Viruses
7. Chemical Weapons
8. Wasting this world resources for another world exploration ?



Infact its neither Science nor Religion are DESTRUCTIVE..

But the Intentions Desires and Greed of MEN!

THE VERY SUBJECT OF THE RELIGION !!!

[Atheist]

For me ignorance is not a bliss. Rest is silence.

[Me]

 i really laugh at atheists : ) When the decades of their hard work and research finally ends up like this..

http://truereligiondebate.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/non-muslim-scientists-embraced-islam-after-discovering-the-miracles-of-the-noble-quran/

Religion and Science are the same thing to me.

Religion(Islam) says how and what to do ! .. and Science tells why to do that.

Religion(Islam) gives knowledge about that which science will discover and conclude.

[Atheist]

Well any one who believes in fables should not talk about science and logic. Travelling on the boat of ignorance with a flag of science is really a scene for laughing a lot. If you believe in logic and science say loud, angels does not exist, Koran is not a book from God, Muhammad never visited God and fables are not a part of science.

[Me]

Angels Exists – String Theory Confirms parallel overlapping universe and existence of better life forms but not understandable through limitations of our 4 dimensional mind (4 dimensional mind can not understand the life form of an 11th dimensional world)

Koran is a Book from God – Miracle : even a 11 year child is able to memorize whole BOOK !.. 
Miracle: Only a Supreme Divine could write such a book which provided accurate details which could not be given by man without use of modern inventions (Microscope and Hubble Telescope)

If science claims there would be Star Track like journey from one galaxy to another and scientists believe that even time travel would be a reality one day.. they also believe in a Promise !.. we also believe in a Promise that he did’t lie to us. !

An atheist comment after long search of truth.. 

Interesting. In search of the truth I’ve come to believe in a God, who (like Michio Kaku and Einstein propose) is passive at the moment. I’ve come to my current position mostly because of the question ‘where did it start?’ Many scientists (recently Stephen Hawkins) have stated that the genesis of the universe can be supported by formulae alone but one can always delve deeper – where did IT start?

and by the way.. why are you resisting : ) ???

When the Einstein of the 21st Century.. Dr. Michu kaku has already believed in GOD !! :))))

“Music is the voice of God traveling through ten-dimensional hyperspace.”

Einstein himself.

“Albert Einstein once said something very profound. He said the Universe could have been chaotic, random and ugly—and yet we have this gorgeous synthesis at the origin of the Universe itself, giving birth to the galaxies, the planets, DNA, life. Einstein said that the harmony he sees could not have been an accident. We’re not necessarily talking about the design of humans; we’re not talking about an intervention that gave us eyes, noses and ears, but where did the laws of physics come from?”

: ))

now do you put your faith in those scientists.. or think you are more einstein then einstein himself?

[Atheist]

Poet Mohsin Qidwai wrote..Joot ko sadaqat ki taaq mein sajaney waley khel layee hain puraney naye aane waley…wofooq ki paas pohunchna mohal hain Mohsin, tuu bhi reth mein qastia chalaney lagi………..

[Me]

 I understand you advocate 

1. Speaking Truth.. and Not lying
2. Not killing any innocent human (except where its law and order concern)
3. Promoting Education
4. stopping wars and bringing harmony and peace
5. Promote scientific method
6. reject the crimes commit by the men in the name of religion or God
7. not to deceive any one
8. feed the hungry and the poor !
9. fair distribution of Wealth
10. Women’s rights of equility

you can carry on with having faith in GOD…. 

and i assure you the above 10 are the teachings of ISLAM and most of the religion. the only difference is which provides the most workable model for the MANKIND AS A WHOLE !! (i will explain later)
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